In 2010 and 2011, I was doing a talk called 10 Things I Wish I Knew when I graduated. So editors of publishing houses started reaching out to you. And the result was your book Steel Like an Artist, 10 Things Nobody Told You About Being Creative which was published in 2012. Austin: "I've really changed my tune about this in certain years because there are people who are born into not as cushy situations"
Debbie talks with Austin Kleon, who describes himself as ‘a writer who draws’.