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Ep. 235 - Steven Zapata

The Collective Podcast

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What's Going On?

"I'm pessimistic that the governments of our world right now would give us a utopia, but I'm actually not completely pessimistic," he says. "This whole data acquisition and data use problem is going to have a lot of energy behind it from every sector, not just art." He adds: "Once things show up in court, life is chaos,. It's like we've all seen court cases go in ways that we would have thought there was no way they could go that way"

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