The term metaverse comes from a sci-fi novel written by Neil Stevenson, who was in Magic Leap when I was there. He now has his own metaverse startup called Lamina One. So the term itself carries with it a lot of baggage. The term itself makes people feel something, whether it's really, really exciting or whether it's like, oh my goodness, this is bad. "I have to remain optimistic as a mother of three children also that things are going to go better," she says.

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