I think a lot of us just kind of figure like, this is the way it is. If we're making those choices and it's burning us out, you can be sure that if people follow our lead, it's going to burn them out. And then we're doing a disservice to everybody at the end. I actually have had a little bit of guilt being in the industry for 14 years and teaching entrepreneurship and building businesses. So I made a commitment to kind of make up for my past wrongs by talking about downtime, rest, four day work weeks.

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