Can we have a systemic policy with energy and economy in the way on some of the topics we've been discussing here today? And as a broader question, how do you see US energy policy going in the next 10, 20 years as the default? It just seems like we're playing whack-a-mole with blinders on as the default. So that's very plausible to me. But it requires a systemic understanding of not only energy and climate and human behavior, but materials and supply chains or other things.

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