The Daily Evolver Podcast

i thought you meant a spiral upward. Andso yues, it's a spiral. And si'm thinking this to myself, and then he follows it up, and he says, yes, a spiral right down the tubes. So i said, i thoughtyou meant a spiral upwards. And so i did. All right, everybody. Well, thank you for listening in as we wander our way through the news with mostly the lens of the new york times.