What would have to happen, not just for america to somehow get past vitu danger in 20 24, but for this broader moment of real danger to pass? I've been worrying about tve rise of populaism more broadly. And so while i certainly recognize fadonal trump as uniquely dangerous individual, and i think has a much deeper emotional and effective bond with his supporters when a replacement would. So i guess i am a little bit sceptical that if, let's say, donald trump had a hard attack and passed away next month, that would really make the danger pass. That is the most important question, and it's also a very difficult question to answer.

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