Jake Werner, acting director of the East Asia Program at the Quincy Institute, is back on the program, this time to talk about the current state of US-China relations and where they might be heading under Trump 2.0. They talk about the Biden administration's bimodal approach of collaborating with China while trying to threaten it, the regional alliance structure, how Trump appears to be positioning himself toward China in his new administration, how the US might navigate trade upheaval given the lack of domestic manufacturing, consumption and climate change, and more.

Don't forget to listen to our episode on Jake's brief "A Program for Progressive China Policy".

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