“It’s interesting that we became enthusiastic about ASL in the process of teaching it to a population that couldn’t benefit from it.”

Mike tells Sarah about a very special ape and the very problematic humans around her. Digressions include video dating, "Biography" and the terrible terrible inventor of the telephone. We start with a SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT about the future of the show. Both co-hosts understand the difference between chimps, monkeys and apes but occasionally misspeak.

For a transcript of this episode (Thanks Andrea!), click here or copy-paste:
https://rottenindenmark.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/YWA-Koko-the-Gorilla-Transcript.pdf

Support us:
Subscribe on Patreon
Donate on Paypal
Buy cute merch

Where else to find us:
Sarah's other show, Why Are Dads
Mike's other show, Maintenance Phase

Links!

Marcus Perlman, the researcher Mike interviewed!
"Human and Animal Cognition: Continuity and Discontinuity"
"In Memorium: Koko, A Remarkable Gorilla"
"What Do Talking Apes Really Tell Us?"
“Monkey Business”
“Talk to the Animals,” the 1980 Omni article
“Animal Bodies, Human Minds: Ape, Dolphin, and Parrot Language Skills”
1979 New York Magazine article on Herb Terrace
“The Last Distinction?”
“The Sad Twilight of Koko The Gorilla and Her 'Mother'”
“Why Koko Can’t Talk”
“The Other Side of Silence: Sign Language and the Deaf Community in America”
“The Education of Koko”

Support the show

437. The Woke Right Examined - Fraser Myers

heretics.

Discussion on Work and Admiration of a Heretic

The AI-powered Podcast Player