
218. Kelly Clarkson: Red Flags, Divorce & Starting Over
We Can Do Hard Things
The Importance of Suffering
I think at some point we all do what we think is good and right and beneficial for everyone. I feel like, I feel like it's a beautiful thing to see that hope. But I also think if you heard the song Lighthouse on the album. That is the song where I got off the fence and was like, okay, I'm going to drown. Like for anyone. How do you know? Because you have Christianity in your background. You have southern, you have a lot of cultures you come from that revel in suffering. For me, like it also means that whatever, whatever impacts you deeply matters.
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