Do you think that the relationship of agency between populist and politics is changing? The last three Tory governments have managed to get away with outright lying to the public, haven't been held accountable for it. Trump was kicked out. He may come back. So he's gone. Bolsonaro in Brazil. Don't underestimate how much damage he did. Unless we frank, in most electoral systems, a lot of people will vote. People are underestimating their power between the elections to make things happen. And to influence MPs, to influence legislators and so forth.

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