
EMDR, Cultural Humility, and Doing Your Own Work: Conversation with Mark Nickerson
Notice That
Mark's Journey into Cultural Work
Mark describes his social work roots, influences, and early curiosity about culture, masculinity, and inclusion.
āTo be a culturally competent therapist is to be a human firstācurious, aware, humble, and willing to grow.ā
In this powerful episode of Notice That: An EMDR Podcast, Jen Savage sits down with EMDR therapist, author, and cultural competence advocate Mark Nickerson, LICSW for a rich and timely conversation about what it really means to bring cultural responsiveness into our clinical work.
This episode invites clinicians to think beyond checkboxes and intake formsāand to reflect on how their personal stories, social identities, and cultural histories shape the therapy they provide. Together, Jen and Mark explore how EMDR can help process both internalized oppression and social bias, and how the work of healing requires an ongoing willingness to look inward.
āCultural humility isnāt an add-onāitās at the heart of any real change.ā
ā Mark Nickerson, LICSW
Why This Conversation Matters
Therapists often long to be affirming, inclusive, and awareābut arenāt sure where to begin. Markās insights offer both practical steps and deep philosophical grounding. His perspective is shaped by decades of clinical work, social advocacy, and a commitment to human rights.
He shares stories from early workshops where EMDR was used to process two core themes:
- A memory of being excluded or discriminated against
- A memory of holding bias or participating in exclusion
In both cases, EMDR offered clarity, healing, and increased self-awarenessāmaking space for deeper empathy and greater readiness to grow.
Featured Topics:
- What it means to do your own cultural work as a therapist
- How identity, privilege, and power dynamics shape the therapy process
- Using EMDR to target internalized oppression and social bias
- Legacy trauma, intergenerational pain, and cultural narratives
- How cultural humility invites us into lifelong self-examination
- Why EMDR is well-suited to address culturally based traumaāwhen practiced with awareness
About the Book
Mark is the editor and contributing author of the seminal book
Cultural Competence and Healing Culturally Based Trauma with EMDR Therapy (2nd ed., 2023).
Spanning more than 400 pages, the book includes seven chapters by Mark and 20 more by authors with diverse identities, backgrounds, and clinical expertise. It addresses racial trauma, immigration and asylum seeking, social class, systemic oppression, and cultural adaptations of EMDR around the world.
Whether you read it cover-to-cover or use it as a chapter-by-chapter resource, itās an essential tool for therapists seeking to deepen their work.
š Learn more about the book and Markās work at: markinickerson.com
Want to Go Even Deeper?
If this conversation stirred something in youāif youāre beginning to ask how your own story shows up in the therapy roomāconsider exploring the Somatic Integration and Processing (SIP) framework.
SIP isnāt a replacement for EMDR. Itās a lens that helps therapists explore the worldview they bring into their work. It asks:
- Why do I respond this way in session?
- What does safety mean to me?
- What am I unconsciously avoiding?
SIP helps therapists do their own workāby mapping how our nervous systems, identities, and histories shape our therapeutic presence.
š„ Want to explore it for yourself?
Comment āmirrorā on our Instagram page or visit connectbeyondhealing.com and search āSIPā to receive a free PDF chapter on the SIP model.
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