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Xi Loves Us, Xi Loves Us Not? - Kevin Rudd

The Joe Walker Podcast

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The Future of Australia

Australia can accommodate a population of 50 million Australians. It's far better to conduct Australia's future bilateral relationship with Indonesia than the framework of ASEAN. The sooner or later we realise as Australians that it'sfar better to be part of a much bigger sub-regional grouping linked with common arteries of trade commerce and investment, the better for us economically. How long before we actually join the ASEANs? Something I first raised with SPY back in 2013 privately and I noticed Wudodo subsequently raised it with Turnbull. And it's that time of day when your average politician defences have already begun to see. That's when we're taught by the way to become most vigilant.

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