Putting on my late night f m d j voice for this podcast. Cause here i am, el. It's really not late at night. It's nine 30. Just feels late. You know what i'm saying? Welcome back to the frank james podcast. To day, we've got another podcast about creativity. Cause, you know, i've found that that seems to be the thing that people the most about when they talk about the podcast. To me, it's kind of a weirdly constructed sentence when they talk about this thing, to me. But yet, and creativityis, it's a fascinating subject to me because, i mean, who knows? Maybe we're just romanticizing something that's as simple as making crap up. But perhaps a creativity is some thing special that, you know, is some kind of process that is not, you know, not really, i don't know, not really explainable fully. There's, there's some element of mystery to it, you know, in the same way that just the creation of a human life, i mean, we know how it happens, you know, without getting to, without even getting p g here, we know how it pens, but, like, what, where does the life come from? You know, it's like, we know how to write a song, but where does the life of the song? Where does the, you know, any one can put notes on a thing, you know, notes on a staff or a stave, if you will, but not everyone can write hay jude, you know, like, where is that element of the spirit of the creativity that comes it, the spirit of the new of ecause, you know, all the arts are so limited. You know, a painting is limited by however many colors there are. Ye, ok. There's a lot of different shades of colors, ok? But there's, you know, we all know we're looking at green. There might be a hundred different varieties of green, but we all know it's green. Like, you know, you're not fooling anyone.