The genesis of Akunwe as a character is fascinating you found a bill of sale in the archives in Durham. Slavery is now at this point in time has ended in well in the British Empire but it hasn't extended all the way out to the rest of the world so it is still legal in Sudan during pre-British colonial time. Yes so after all these years of the transatlantic slavery Britain did a kind of U-turn and began to sort of launch an attack against countries which still practice slavery. And I knew that Zam Zam was her slave name and that she must have had another name before she was she was enslaved and so I developed the character from that.

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