When i first totted in v c, actually, beforey c, a, i thought there was a lot of science to it. But it's actually art, not science. It literally comes down to what's the stage you are at, and what ownership does the v c want? So this is why, if you have no attraction, some one mougt say, i want 30% of your company. And so the evaluation from the seedy sis back calculated based on that. The ou kno, i would say if you're in the us at seed, it could vary anywhere from ten to 15%. Cd, ais 25 % ownership. If your

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