What Can You Tell Us About Race in Public Schools?

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In most schools, probably, you do have a serious engagement with the negative aspects of american history. You have some outliers where that stuf is denied and not talked about at all. And i also think that there is a little bit of a slight of hand that sometimes journalists, sometimes teachers, sometimes liberals use around c r t. I mean, i agree with you that education runs a great game. It's more about kind of how they apply lessons, right?

Michael Powell is a reporter for The New York Times, covering issues including free speech, education and identity politics. His reporting takes him from the campuses of elite universities and private schools to the halls of the ACLU.

In this week’s conversation, Michael Powell and Yascha Mounk discuss whether the left has cooled on free speech, what’s lost in the national discussion about critical race theory, and how establishment institutions across the United States are being transformed.

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