Introduction

In this episode, Samo Burja and Erik Torenberg discuss Africa as the potential "next China," its corrupt governments, and Botswana's leadership example. They also touch on the Indian Ocean's geopolitical significance, what it means for the global Islamist movements and migration trends towards China, and the need for strong local governance to avoid pitfalls like civil war and kleptocracy. If you need an ecommerce platform, check out our sponsor Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/momentofzen for a $1/month trial period.

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LINKS:

Samo’s Bismarck Brief: https://brief.bismarckanalysis.com/

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TIMESTAMPS

(00:00) Intro

(00:25) What's happened in Africa over the past 20 years

(05:26) Nigeria and Ethiopia without the civil war.

(08:30) Make the new states of Africa become wealthy

(10:00) Botswana as an example of a well-run presidential democracy

(12:40) Diamond mining in Botswana and partnership with De Beers

(15:20) Nigeria's Economic growth

(22:24) Sponsor - Shopify

(23:59) Bullish case for Africa rests more on the development projects of Ethiopia

(35:44) Africa's importance in the broader geopolitical struggle among great powers

(41:10) Lessons from South Africa's deep history

(49:05) On countries becoming decolonized and independent and becoming sustainable

(54:11) Challenges faced by the regions of Africa

(56:28) Wrap

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