Schmatke is coming in understanding that he's not going to be the boss of Jürgen Klopp. Schmatke won't have scouted any of them either. He didn't scout anyone the last 10 years either. So he will, I think, come to the shortlist at the club and then ask Klopp who from those guys do you think is the best choice? We talk it over. Let's see if we can make him happen. If we come, make this guy happen. What do you think about that guy? I think he's going to be very much a junior partner in the Sandeva," says Holikstein.