Athena: It is a deeply depressing situation that we know our universities are not necessarily very nice places to work. I do think that industry, by and large, does a much better job on some of these personnel issues. We need men to recognise their own biases with the way the systemic problems play out in their department,. If we're talking about funders, then that's a totally different institution from where you work kind of thing. There's this lovely quote, we will have reached parity when mediocre women get jobs just as fast as mediocre men. Only then will we know we've captured.