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"I don't understand how to make a spreadsheet like the one that you've made," he says. "There is some stuff in there that is genuinely helpful to me, but some of it, it's going over my head." He adds: "If it's the opposite direction, I think it's just funny to me now to hear you say like, gray,. either way, I don't know what the hell is coming"
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