Crusader Kings

Old world is trying to address some of the the issues that you have with the genre certainly david but one of the specific things that they're doing is to combine forex with sort of storytelling elements. i think crusader kings was a tipping point actually when you bring it like one crusader kings two came out that kind of allowed me to break from my forex ways and just really really realized that dealing with the level of minutia of a forex game was far less interesting than being able to step away from that tactical stuff, David says.