When he was at university age, I think Twitter existed, but it was like people posting pictures of their lunch. It's really fascinating how we had the tool basically in the same form back then, but the way in which we used it was so much less sophisticated. The whole thing is such a perfect example because I was like mind blown by that stuff. Two years later, I'm illustrating a book with Eric Jorgensen of Navaal's ideas. We share a lot of opinions on this where vision is about what you're exposed to.

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