Unless you've been living in a Netflix bubble or under a rock, you might have noticed that the election campaign is on in earnest, as Scott Morrison tries desperately to save his government.
For most working Australians, politics is, well, a pain in the arse.
Do they care if Scott Morrison is a liar or can't hold a hose? Or are they simply more concerned about whether they'll have a decent job they can rely on and build a life with?
Academic and writer Lech Blane returns to the pod to discuss all this.
Lech wrote a superb Quarterly Essay in 2021 called "Top Blokes" that looked at the shifting sands of Australian political culture and whether workers think about politics the same way political junkies like you and I (well if you've read this far, you qualify!), do.
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