Introduction

In this bonus episode, you'll hear a conversation between Noah and friend of the show, lawyer Jose Pertiera. Jose is based in Washington, D.C. and has been practicing immigration law for decades. Perhaps more famously, two decades ago, Jose represented the father of Ilion Consalis. In late 1999, five-year-old Ilion showed up on the coast of Florida. He had come to America on a raft with his mother. But the other passengers on this journey, including his mother, had died.