The Real Is Always Something That Is on the Scene

In cave paintings, for example, they were creating similacra of things in the world. When we engage with something in the world, we aren't engaging with thing itself. We are only engaging with our brains telling us what that thing is like. So to that extent, this thing called the real is always something that, it has been mediated by our cognitive faculties. And it is something that we've always, as humans, tried to replicate in a more literal way through painting, through art, through human relationships and organization.