I never imagined it would be at this stage. You know I try not to have any kind of long-term goals or plans. So basically 2020 March I joined him that's about a year into him releasing the subscription business $400 MRR no 3040 customers and he was like we're gonna make it. If that point did not happen yeah I don't know if it would have been where we are today so that was like why you should remove Google Analytics from your website or something.

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