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State of Disorder | The Roundtable Ep. 109
The American Mind
Ukranian President and Crisis Actor - It's a Real Mess
"This is not the good versus evil, we must triumph at all costs struggle that it's made out to be," he says. "I just hope we don't manoeuvre ourselves and our allies into a place where things get out of hand." 'Because this is pretty high stakes and a lot could go wrong'
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