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134. Shifting Mindsets and Systems with Jennifer Morgan

Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

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The Paris Agreement

I think it's a, i'm not sure i would characterize it as a breakdown. I think that there's my, my perspective, in a way, as that if you're a government and you're close to governments, ah, i think you have a very different brief than those who are out on the front lines. And also, going into egypt, where these issues of loss and damage especially, and i think that's the other thing, like the impacts that are hitting now is just heart breaking because we thought we had more time. It's the time thing again. We have such little amounts of time.

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