I did a bit of programming at university, a lot of a bit of MATLAB and a bit of C++. And then my first job after university, I worked on oil rigs in Indonesia. There's a lot of time on an oil rig when you're flat out. And so I program quite a lot in that time. That was what I really got into loving it rather than just doing it when I had to. Then I guess Python from there,. A bit of JavaScript, a bit of Python ever since. Yeah, really cool. It seems to have caught the imagination of people and the really excited about it. So fantastic work.