The conversation is where you're surfacing the impacts of behaviour. It's not enough for somebody to acknowledge at the level of intention or intentionality that they get it, we have to talk about what those impacts are. The last thing we'll say here is, especially as you get into the latter stages of the dial the conversation, the boundary and the limit, they sound like they could be more punitive. All they are is a little bit more crisp. They're not any more punitive. You're going to be big, open hearted you at every single step of the dial up through and including the limit. That's how you lead people in the modern world effectively, is by showing

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