"I had a bias built up against him because of the real stories that had happened to me," he says. "So here we are. Number 20, 20, I haven't talked to this guy ever." He calls his wife and asks why in the world did he do that? And she goes, Why do you think he did that? Here's the whole human face to someone who doesn't want to walk across your face to talk to you about something like race or racial bias. The three of them mixed together triggered her.

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