Yeethers: We are basically our own worst enemy here. And wvact vaccinating imperfectly. What these people tend not to notice is that also, natural immunity would be doing the same thing. It would be exerting a selection pressure that would then cause variance to emerge that escape natural immunity. Yeethers: To what degree does vaccination mitigate the problem of variance, compared to lack of vaccination? How do you think about the selection re that the the vaccinated and the un vaccinated togetherAra are creating for the arising of new variants?
Sam Harris speaks with Nicholas Christakis about the lessons of the COVID pandemic. They discuss our failures to coordinate an effective response, the politics surrounding vaccination, vaccine efficacy, vaccine safety, how to think about scientific controversies, the epidemiology of excess deaths, transmission among the vaccinated, natural immunity, selection pressures and new variants, the failure of institutions, the lab-leak hypothesis, the efficacy of lockdowns, vaccine mandates, boosters, what would happen in a worse pandemic, and other topics.
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