What Are Her Values and Jamala?

The first black president of the States was named Barack and the first black woman vice president was named Kamala. Demalsamis: Those of us who've had names that are, you know, rooted in Africa or our other cultures have always had this sort of shadow of people saying, "Oh, your opportunities are going to be diminished because you have these names that sound Anglo" Listen to Deep Cover wherever you get your podcasts. Find Pushkin Plus on the Deep Cover Show page and Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm slash plus.