Today we caught up with Koen Bok and Jorn van Dijk, the co-founders of Framer, previously building products at Facebook and Sofa. This was a fun episode where we went deep into topics like building a startup in Amsterdam, the future of design tools, how to help designers level up, and so much more.

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Sponsor:

• UENO and on Twitter and on Instagram and on Dribbble

Koen on the web:

• Twitter
• Website
• Medium

Jorn on the web:

• Twitter
• Website
• Dribbble

Show Notes:

• Sofa
• Sebastiaan de With
• Sebastiaan on Design Details
• Framer
• Beamer
• Sketch
• Figma
• Autocode for Animations
• Versions
• Kaleidoscope
• Brandon Walkin
• Mike Matas
• Quartz Composer
• Rasmus Andersson
• Rasmus on Design Details
• InVision