Ike: I was trying to think, what would be a the kind of family interaction in which you weren't feeling flow. So now imagine all those things are going on in your familiar interaction,. Your your having all these what would pop you out tathat would bring your ego back into it that? Well, like tense, a kind of tense conflict. Like when relationships are going bad, you start to do a lot of the things that you started to do when so your skill level isn't matching the you know, like, you start over thinking things. Ike: Yes, i just think you could make a slightly broader model that captured both the social flow and and skilful

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