I'm afraid that it might be a social breakdown disaster that will actually hit us before the environmental disaster. A very, very small but rapidly growing part of the population is waking up to the fact that we need to find completely new ways of addressing these problems. And even if this is a small portion, I can say that today in Sweden, for example, I would guess that 2% of the population would resonate with what we do. With what we are talking about today, perhaps not in these words and in these formulations, but generally you have a resonance with maybe one or 2%. Five years ago, that would have been a fraction, a fraction of a percent.

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