
#84 Neuroscientist Ranks Every Drug By How Hard They Are to Quit! Tier List Part 2
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Kratom: Pharmacology and Regulation Debate
David outlines kratom's weak-opiate and noradrenergic effects, dependence potential, and advocates regulated access as medicine.
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Professor David Nutt is a neuropsychopharmacologist, former UK chief drug adviser, and author of Drugs Without the Hot Air, Drink?, Cannabis, and Psychedelics. He built the first evidence-based Drug Harm Scale, ran the world’s first LSD brain-scan, and is now engineering hangover-free “alcohol” with GABA science.
After the first drug tier list sparked an overwhelming response, this round two episode goes deeper. In this rapid-fire sequel, Nutt ranks twelve more drugs on the same harm scale, responding directly to audience feedback and tackling substances that viewers demanded we cover. From benzodiazepines and methamphetamine to vaping, ayahuasca, kratom, 2C-B, caffeine, and nitrous oxide, this episode exposes how dose, context, purity, and policy shape real-world risk far more than headlines ever admit.
Expect to learn why benzodiazepine withdrawal can be more dangerous than heroin, how meth differs from “speed” at the molecular and historical level, why vaping nicotine is dramatically safer than smoking, how ayahuasca works as indigenous polypharmacy, what we actually know (and don’t know) about endogenous DMT, why kratom sits between medicine and dependence, how edible cannabis changes overdose risk, why nitrous oxide bans backfire, where 2C-B sits between MDMA and psychedelics, why caffeine can induce seizures at high doses, and how harm reduction consistently beats prohibition when it comes to saving lives.
Timestamps:
01:00 Benzos
14:45 DMT & Ayahuasca
32:23 Meth & Speed
45:47 Nicotine Vapes
52:28 Kratom
55:40 Sentia
58:07 Edible Cannabis
01:06:26 Caffeine
01:09:35 2-CB
01:19:46 Nitrous Oxide ...
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