I think everyone needs just a good old fashioned hobby. And what are yours? Music. When I sit down at the piano, I'm not even that good, but man, I play some Bach. It just feels like someone scrubbed your brain with a Brillo pad after you play Bach. Just to trim the noise of the world is just, that's the bliss station element. To have a place that you go and there's nothing to do but be with yourself. That's going to be, if I could invest, maybe I should buy a ranch outside off. The boredom ranch, sign up.
Debbie talks with Austin Kleon, who describes himself as ‘a writer who draws’.