There is no one size fits all approach to there are nuances to all of the ESG themes that we think about for a corporate performance. There may be local jurisdictions and laws that are completely different in South Africa that incentivize companies to do something differently than in China or Indonesia or Brazil. For us, what is important is continuous engagement. Possibly the only case for divestment that you may have seen and you it's been in the news as well was we have devastated the Russian assets that we had for which for us was the hard line.

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