Is There a Crypto Normativist in the Way That You're Describing?

I think, i thin wo can think ethical actually a just kind of pick up on that, i think, one way. I also sort of understood your argument as ike, obviously not being, not trying to mount ta defensive like human centrism in kind of the wayt that those people who are anti anthropo centrism think. In some ways, they want to avoid making normative claims altogether, right? They just want to talk about the disruption in the political order. And maybe this doesn't map on perfectly, but the whi you, victor, where are these crypto normativistsam one? Name one.