I've Never Heard a Producer Talk Like a Manager

"I'm certain that there's some, you know, like the equivalent of when you lose your glasses and they're on your forehead," he says. "What hobby of shit should the roots have done to really grab fans of like live music that we didn't do? Cause never once in my history did I think of, oh, what's the marketing thing?" He adds: "We need a new earthwood and fire."