Introduction

Good faith fam, we have one of the great american foreim policy and national security journalists of our time with us. Eli lake is hereand we're going to get into tons of good stuff about journalism, foreign policy and all that. He's a man of deep integrity, most importantly, but also just an incredible amount of experience he has. One thing we've learned from the last two decades is that freedom and political liberty are really hard to translate into an effective foreign policy. But i often feel like the baby. I mean, honestly, the whole family ends up getting thrown out with the bath water. We should keep talking aspirationally and thinking strategically about freedom, not just for