The Early Bird Gets the Worm, but the Second Mouse Gets the Cheese

Ben: I have an unfortunate pattern of having a show not go and then t something else six months later, quite similarly go. So i'm like sould i just stop. No, the wheel's going turn. It's going to a line. You're on. Your timing is a huge thing. And it's exciting to be the first, but it can also, ya, its an also o in your ya, the early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. Let's be the second moallright,. so ben, let's officially start our interview then. Already you've gond of blown my mind, and i love it. O, just