In this bonus episode, Leo interviews expert Jocelyn Glei, who has shifted her expertise from productivity to a slower, deeper approach to work.
This is an incredible episode filled with wisdom and tools for accessing a deeper creativity. Must listen!
Topics Covered
- Leo interviews Jocelyn Glei, a former productivity expert who transitioned to a more transformative, slower approach to work
- Jocelyn's background includes working with 99U, creating the 99U conference, and writing a book on email productivity
- Jocelyn's burnout led her to start the "Hurry Slowly" podcast and explore personal and collective transformation
- The importance of moving away from mainstream productivity and embracing a slower, more inquisitive, and heartfelt approach to work
- The shift from productivity to receptivity and how it can lead to more efficient and sustainable outcomes
- Restorative activities that involve doing something different to refresh one's mindset
- Fear, particularly related to scheduling and deadlines, as a common obstacle to maintaining a receptive state during work
- The limitations of the expert mode, which can be rigid and uncreative
- Leaning towards the experimental side to open up opportunities for creativity and learning from creative mistakes
- The fear associated with not having a strict plan but highlights the beauty in unexpected outcomes
- The importance of self-trust and leaning into imperfections
- Creating systems to collect and revisit creative insights
Resources
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Credits
Intro music composition: Salem Beladonna & Robrecht Dumarey
Editor: Justin Cruz
