Do You Think Apple Is a Real Growth Story?

One of the concerns about Apple, I think, is that like the if you look at consensus estimates for this year, it suggests very little growth. You start to look out next 18, my man, it's a hundred billion, a double digit grower. And then this is all the drum roll to what's going to be on the ARV or in terms of Apple glass, eventually the Apple car, which allowed 2025, 2026. So we're going to go through periods of modest growth. And then what I view is much more elevated growth that continues to sort of be in that eight to 12% type growth rate.