There's this kind of pervasive sense that a lot of people have that they need to sort of not be publicly Christian until they reach a certain point of security, especially if they're in a more secular environment. I don't think I can necessarily think of any examples of closeted Christians that suddenly became very, very public once they made partner with the law for whatever you say. And then as this gets back to this notion that oh like once I'm rich I will start giving, and that's possible but it's actually it's a surprisingly hard to starting giving at a certain point because it just never feels like it's enough.

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