I don't want to be giving too much of their interior lives or interior experiences away. I'm always kind of weighing these things like stones in my hands and thinking okay is this okay? Do I feel okay with this? And they trust me. It's not new at all. They come to readings, they know what I do for my work. The public nature of your career it's very different of how we think about poets right. Talk about that idea of being being public and you thinking because then you have all his Instagram.

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