Kendall Roy: Being earnest is the vulnerable because then if you care and then someone else says like you suck or doesn't like it, or what if your best is not good enough? Right. If you're like, follow the instructions, stick with the thing and then try and then it doesn't work out, that challenges your sense of who you are. So to me, it's scary to like, this is what irony and stuff are so popular because it's a defense shield against like, who did you read that New York Times piece? I never watched succession. But who's like them? Who's the main character? Do you watch succession? No, no, no