And I, it does feel like that's part of the key to living a successful, happy life is dealing with reality as you find it and letting go of the past. When, you know, you've been in D.C. since the entire time I was there as a very famous Republican operative working in foreign countries and all over all over the world was all fine. Then you become Trump's campaign manager for like 20 minutes. And the next thing you know, they're sending you off to prison. You got sent to prison because you work for Trump. Nobody, Republican or Democrat in D.C., doubted that for one second, period. So I just think that's a fact. It is a fact. It was Andrew Weissman did this because you worked for Trump. How do you let go of that and stay cheerful and forward-looking? You don't seem bitter at all. We just had breakfast. You weren't ranting about anything. How do you do that? Well,

you have to have faith, which I do, have family, which I do, and believe in yourself, which I do. And when you're advising people on all of the contradictions of politics and in the world, you got to recognize that that affects you too. And so if people have got to make adjustments because of contradictions that they see that they don't like, then I felt I needed to as well. And look.

Yeah, but that's a lot easier to describe than to pull off. Well, except it's over now for me. I've

gone through that crucible and pulling it off was hard, but that's where faith and family came into account. And that was where the strength was. Did you

make a decision not to be angry?

Yeah. When?

Well,

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It was it was like the family welcomed me home. Yeah. And a family who knew that I had given myself for them. And there was a lot of love in that room. I noticed. I saw it. And it made me really feel validated that I did the right thing. Amazing.